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<title>Nerd shite talk :: RE: Google Chrome</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:51:24 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://anycraic.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;amp;u=5&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Andrew&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: Google Chrome&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/21 - 15:51 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot; cite=&quot;viewtopic.php?p=27217#p27217&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote-user&quot;&gt;Gear&amp;nbsp;wrote:&amp;nbsp;[&lt;a href=&quot;#_somewhat&quot; onclick=&quot;javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=27217');&quot; class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;View Post&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;post-text&quot;&gt;And google have added SearchWiki to their search functionality&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class=&quot;post-url&quot; href=&quot;http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/20/google-makes-major-interface-change-to-search-searchwiki/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/2...rch-searchwiki/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Cool.&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I guess when you've invested &amp;amp;pound;500m it's a fantastic season to win the League Cup.&amp;quot; - Rick Parry on Chelsea&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<title>Nerd shite talk :: RE: Google Chrome</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:48:15 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://anycraic.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;amp;u=14&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Gear&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: Google Chrome&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/21 - 13:48 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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And google have added SearchWiki to their search functionality&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class=&quot;post-url&quot; href=&quot;http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/20/google-makes-major-interface-change-to-search-searchwiki/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/2...rch-searchwiki/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In other news:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class=&quot;post-url&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/30000/1000/900/31969/31969.strip.print.gif&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.dilbert.com/dyn/str_stri...strip.print.gif&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes you milk the squirrel, and sometimes the squirrel milks you.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<dc:creator>Gear</dc:creator>
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<title>Nerd Links :: A Specimen Perfectly Suited To Be An Engineer</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:26:38 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://anycraic.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;amp;u=64&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;adri&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: A Specimen Perfectly Suited To Be An Engineer&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/21 - 13:26 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://spectrum.ieee.org/images/nov08/images/spore9e.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Click to open image in new window&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://spectrum.ieee.org/images/nov08/images/spore9e.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Image&quot; title=&quot;Image&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In an IEEE competition, readers had to create the Creature to be  perfectly suited to be an engineer!&lt;br /&gt;
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The above was my favourite...&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class=&quot;post-url&quot; href=&quot;http://spectrum.ieee.org/nov08/6985&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://spectrum.ieee.org/nov08/6985&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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another good one:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://spectrum.ieee.org/images/nov08/images/spore9h.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Click to open image in new window&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://spectrum.ieee.org/images/nov08/images/spore9h.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Image&quot; title=&quot;Image&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;[img:8a5dcc7130]http://www.gourismitha.com/TheGraphicWorld/Websets/lilo_stitch_main.gif[/img:8a5dcc7130]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<title>Nerd shite talk :: RE: Google Chrome</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:20:02 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://anycraic.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;amp;u=64&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;adri&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: Google Chrome&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/21 - 13:20 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gmail has themes out &lt;img src=&quot;http://anycraic.com/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt; I like it!&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm using an ocean theme...&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;[img:8a5dcc7130]http://www.gourismitha.com/TheGraphicWorld/Websets/lilo_stitch_main.gif[/img:8a5dcc7130]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<title>General Shite Talk :: RE: Conspiracies</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:52:47 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://anycraic.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;amp;u=54&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Maverick&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: Conspiracies&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/21 - 11:52 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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For me, The Philadelphia Experiment is the most interesting one. I shall spend the afternoon wikipedia-ing that one.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<title>General Shite Talk :: Conspiracies</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:34:33 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://anycraic.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;amp;u=3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Dennis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Conspiracies&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/21 - 10:34 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class=&quot;post-url&quot; href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/3477148/The-greatest-conspiracy-theories-in-history.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pic...in-history.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Crazy people... although the one about MK-ULTRA sounds very scary.&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;[img]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/zakkro/Taxi_Driver7.jpg[/img]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
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<title>Quotes :: RE: Investment Advice</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:36:09 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://anycraic.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;amp;u=3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Dennis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: Investment Advice&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/20 - 16:36 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mutual funds seem to be like the investment options we were given for our pension funds... makes sense I suppose. &lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks Dec... The third post in that thread is what I was talking about. I don't really want to pay anyone €80 for maintaining an account that I barely use. I suppose I'll just hold off on this until I feel like I'll be able to devote more time to it.&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;[img]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/zakkro/Taxi_Driver7.jpg[/img]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<title>Quotes :: RE: Investment Advice</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:47:31 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://anycraic.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;amp;u=53&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;deco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: Investment Advice&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/20 - 15:47 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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I've done a fair bit of research into this and unfortunately it is not as easy as it seems. They are all quite awkward to use and to set up your account.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sharewatch is quite competitive on charges, and you can pay a one off transactional fee which is a bit more flexible than other sites. Check it out here &lt;a class=&quot;post-url&quot; href=&quot;http://www.sharewatch.com/ireland.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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There is a discussion on this topic &lt;a class=&quot;post-url&quot; href=&quot;http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?t=6629&amp;amp;page=6&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; which gives a lot of peoples opinins and doesn't really come to any conclussions. A bit like anycraic really.&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;So there I was, roysh, class legend, schools rugby legend, basically all-round legend, when someone decides you can't, like, sit the Leaving Cert four times. Well that put a focking spanner in the works.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:42:22 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://anycraic.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;amp;u=8&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Ferg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: Investment Advice&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/20 - 15:42 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot; cite=&quot;viewtopic.php?p=27209#p27209&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote-user&quot;&gt;Dennis&amp;nbsp;wrote:&amp;nbsp;[&lt;a href=&quot;#_somewhat&quot; onclick=&quot;javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=27209');&quot; class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;View Post&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;post-text&quot;&gt;In terms of investing in stocks would anyone care to do a very brief run down on how exactly to do that? A pointer to a trustworthy website would suffice.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I take (and highly recommend) the &amp;quot;dummy&amp;quot; route of investing in mutual funds over stocks: basically investing in a broad geographical area/industrial sector of interest as opposed to specific companies, because while I like to pretend I have an idea about what is generally good and bad, I do not have the faintest idea about which exact companies I should buy shares in.&lt;br /&gt;
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1. You first read the charter of a mutual fund (e.g. &amp;quot;funds invested in this Green Energy mutual fund will be primarily invested in Wind and Tidal energy companies in Australia, but not Solar power companies based in the US&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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2. You decide which mutual funds you want to invest in based on the charter/remit and also on how well that fits with a. your ethics b. their expert-rated risk factor c. their track record d. what you FEEL will be a good investment (The Pumpkin mutual fund BEFORE Halloween Homer) (note how prolonged thought on investment becomes irrelevant for non-experts like me: the stock market seems to be based on pure emotion and psychology and not reason)&lt;br /&gt;
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3. You hand over your money to a broker who decides what exact companies to distribute you money over: in accordance with and restricted by the codes mandated by the charter of the mutual fund you have selected.&lt;br /&gt;
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4. The broker is motivated to do a good job because they get a cut of the profits made by your (their!) investment.&lt;br /&gt;
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Mutual funds involve percentage entry (when you buy) and exit (when you sell) fees: so quick buy-sell operations are not profitable. Think of it as a slightly riskier, potentially more rewarding long term investment. And as Barry says, don't put all your eggs in one basket: there are &amp;quot;Worldwide&amp;quot; ultra-generic funds that are low-risk and low-return, as well as ultra-specific funds that are the opposite on both counts. A combination of both will see you make a tidy sum but also not lose everything if the shit hits the fan (or in our present case, if someone cleans the shit of the fan and then drops the bucket of mopped-up shit on the fan again)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can recommend &lt;a class=&quot;post-url&quot; href=&quot;http://www.rabodirect.ie&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Rabodirect&lt;/a&gt; for mutual funds, as well as high interest and safe regular savings accounts. Their ads are in fact true: they are totally open and up front and do not fuck you about with hidden costs or any bullshit. Also it is all Web-based so a. no costs for running their building/staff b. dead handy! but c. no nice personal face to face meetings to build trust, if you're into that kind of thing d. no ATM cards or machines.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rabodirect list the mutual funds they enable you to investment in along with their past performance (with the nice, totally clear note printed &amp;quot;past performance does not indicate future performance&amp;quot;) and you can also check out more details about funds at generic sites like Bloomberg and Morningstar (Google please... too lazy).&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;There are four lights!&amp;quot; - Captain Jean-Luc Piccard, USS Enterprise.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:23:34 GMT</pubDate>
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Subject: Re: Investment Advice&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/20 - 14:23 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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In terms of investing in stocks would anyone care to do a very brief run down on how exactly to do that? A pointer to a trustworthy website would suffice.&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;[img]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/zakkro/Taxi_Driver7.jpg[/img]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:33:26 GMT</pubDate>
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Subject: Re: Investment Advice&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/20 - 13:33 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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You are wise, my young Padawan!&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;[img:8a5dcc7130]http://www.gourismitha.com/TheGraphicWorld/Websets/lilo_stitch_main.gif[/img:8a5dcc7130]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:15:05 GMT</pubDate>
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Subject: Re: Investment Advice&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/20 - 12:15 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it a good idea to invest in AIB or BoI? Yes. But only if you are investing with a global, risk-spread strategy. Investing in one bank is stupid. You need to invest across different industries across different markets across different countries. &lt;br /&gt;
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This is the mistake people make when they lose loads of money. They invest everything in eircom. Or they invest everything in stock options in their own company. You can't expect to be safe investing that way. That's just stupid. These are the people who lose all their money when there are any jitters in the stock markets. They are greedy and they want to make lots of money but they put all their eggs in one basket, and then when the shit hits the fan they run to the government and blame poor regulation and greedy directors for losing them their money. No-one gives out about poor regulation and greedy directors when they are making them money, which they've been doing for years. &lt;br /&gt;
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Same thing with the housing market. Oh isn't it terrible that you bought a house for €300,000, hoping it would increase to €400,000 in two years, and it actually didn't. Of course it didn't. That sort of growth is not sustainable and if you were investing that much money into something, you should have been aware of that from the start. It's not the government's fault. It's not the builders' fault. It's just tough shit. &lt;br /&gt;
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Besides, Warren Buffet, one of the top three richest men in the world (who in 2007, when most investors were beginning to feel the effects of the credit crunch and were scrambling to save money increased his own personal fortune [not just of his company's fortune, but his own personal fortune] by over 10 billion dollars, an increase of nearly 33%) said about a month ago that he's going investing in simple shares of simple companies and he'll make lots of money on it while everyone is in a panic.&lt;br /&gt;
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People forget that investing is a medium-to-long-term return, unless you set out a specific short term investment plan, which is not an easy thing to do and the average small investor hasn't got the time or the information to do that. They want a quick return on investing shares, and then kick up a fuss and give out when they lose their money. &lt;br /&gt;
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Man, I hate stupid people.&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;...And death shall have no dominion.&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:51:02 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://anycraic.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;amp;u=57&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Prime&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: Investment Advice&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/20 - 11:51 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot; cite=&quot;viewtopic.php?p=27204#p27204&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote-user&quot;&gt;Ferg&amp;nbsp;wrote:&amp;nbsp;[&lt;a href=&quot;#_somewhat&quot; onclick=&quot;javascript:open_postreview('show_post.php?p=27204');&quot; class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;View Post&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;post-text&quot;&gt;Can we all save up and chip in enough money to buy Nigel a Doomlord power ring to pragmatically &amp;quot;fix&amp;quot; this shit up?!?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Bank shares? Mutual funds? I'd only invest in a sure thing, so I've been heavily investing for years in me. At least 100,000 euro capital plus forgone earnings from ages 21-29, you're propbably talking close to half a million in total, but yesterday I realised that DoomLord Inc.'s future plans to use cancer to cure AIDS and to use AIDS to cure cancer will give DoomLord Inc. power of life and death over pretty much everyone. We're talking Bill Gates power! Giggidy.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:34:43 GMT</pubDate>
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Subject: Nigel... Please Save Us&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/20 - 11:34 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class=&quot;post-url&quot; href=&quot;http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/health/2008/1118/1226700688081.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;irishtimes.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote-nouser&quot;&gt;Quote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;post-text&quot;&gt;The 55-year-old Indian humanitarian and spiritual leader, Mata Amritananda Mayi (Amma), is back in Dublin this week, spreading her message of peace and harmony. People queue for hours to receive her embrace. A programme of live music and meditations will also be held at the National Show Centre, Cloghran, Fingal, Dublin tomorrow and Thursday from 9.30am until late. Admission is free.&lt;br /&gt;
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But, you can buy lots of Amma cds &amp;amp; tat there, and you can listen all these D4 wagons go on about how they are filled with love. For feck sake... Nigel, I request you take these losers out.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:25:56 GMT</pubDate>
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Subject: Re: Investment Advice&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/20 - 01:25 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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If the share prices go much lower, there's a slim chance one or both banks will be nationalised (just a chance, I know!). If this happens who knows what will happen to your investment value: A.1 nationalised and this causes prosperity and rise in your investment value; A.2 nationalised and this causes further panic and damage; B.1 not nationalised and you timed your investment right; B.2. not nationalised and prices continue to fall for another bit/9 months/year/more but eventually you should see some profit. So it depends if you feel lucky, punk (just look at the UK)! I feel nationalisation won't happen, but there is no real evidence behind that... just emotions (that's why Barry is so good with money, he channels 100% of his emotions into it, leaving him as an empty shell of a man when it comes to interpersonal human emotions)&lt;br /&gt;
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As an aside: I invested in some mutual funds (not in bank shares thank God) a couple of weeks ago thinking the whole situation couldn't get much worse... and was still wrong (damn you emerging European market!). In the long term I hope that share prices will return to some sane pre-horribleness levels, but if you're looking for short- or medium-term returns on investment I would be careful: could be another year and a half.&lt;br /&gt;
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As an aside to this aside: ultimately the concept of &amp;quot;growth is good&amp;quot; on a finite planet is debatable, but this is only my personal, face value, logical conclusion without truly knowing anything about the craziness that is the stock market/finance (hence the mutual funds handled by some faceless broker whose expertise I &amp;quot;trust&amp;quot;) and I invite others opinions. Why would I even think of investing in this case? Should we start culling the human population? Should the majority of the world be forced to dump some of our more damaging technology, stop travelling and return to the middle ages for a few centuries until we can sort out some cleaner technology, enforce strict breeding rules and start habitating off the face of the earth? Can we all save up and chip in enough money to buy Nigel a Doomlord power ring to pragmatically &amp;quot;fix&amp;quot; this shit up?!?&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;There are four lights!&amp;quot; - Captain Jean-Luc Piccard, USS Enterprise.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:54:25 GMT</pubDate>
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Subject: Re: Investment Advice&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/20 - 00:54 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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A very good question. Shares are valued at what the last person was willing to pay for them on the open market. These banks will regain their value. If you have deep pockets, then buy now. If you can't afford to wait fot the returns (Could be 3 years, but will be worth it), then don't bother. Also... if you can't afford to wait, then take your savings out and put them in a bank that will pay a decent interest rate!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:43:35 GMT</pubDate>
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Subject: Re: Investment Advice&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/19 - 18:43 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder is now a good time to invest in shares in bank of Ireland or AIB? Lot's of people are saying surely they cant go much lower but they said that when they hit arounf €3, they went below €1 yesterday but gained 20% today? Anyone think about investing?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<title>General Shite Talk :: RE: Somali Pirates</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:54:03 GMT</pubDate>
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Subject: Re: Somali Pirates&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/19 - 16:54 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, they need a much more agressive strategy to wipe these bastards out.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<title>General Shite Talk :: Somali Pirates</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:12:32 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://anycraic.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;amp;u=14&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Gear&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Somali Pirates&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/19 - 16:12 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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<title>General Shite Talk :: RE: Happy Birthday Dennis!</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:58:32 GMT</pubDate>
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Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Dennis!&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/19 - 15:58 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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looks like your image file didn't upload either...&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;[img:8a5dcc7130]http://www.gourismitha.com/TheGraphicWorld/Websets/lilo_stitch_main.gif[/img:8a5dcc7130]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<title>General Shite Talk :: RE: Happy Birthday Dennis!</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:48:54 GMT</pubDate>
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Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Dennis!&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/18 - 22:48 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:44:01 GMT</pubDate>
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Subject: Re: Munster V New Zealand&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/18 - 18:44 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah there's a new apartment. It's not far from the old apartment.&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;[img]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/zakkro/Taxi_Driver7.jpg[/img]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:04:06 GMT</pubDate>
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Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Dennis!&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/18 - 18:04 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:17:18 GMT</pubDate>
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Subject: Re: Munster V New Zealand&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/18 - 17:17 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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Was in the gym down here today and the All Blacks came in for their warm up. All I can say is, unlucky Munster, unlucky.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:08:23 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://anycraic.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;amp;u=42&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Eva&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: Munster V New Zealand&lt;br /&gt;Posted: 2008/11/18 - 17:08 (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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Woah woah woah, there's a NEW apartment?&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;If you do what you've always done then you'll get what you've always gotten&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<dc:creator>Eva</dc:creator>
<dc:subject>Sports Shite Talk</dc:subject>
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